Sunday, October 18, 2009

got a mind of my own, thanks

Well, Boss you thought you could convince me with your fear-mongering, constant pressure and over-bearing coercion that I should get a swine flu shot. You even told me that your colleagues are firing any employees who don't get the vaccine. When I told you I don't get vaccines for religious reasons, your only response was "well, if it is a religious reason, I guess I can't force you to get it." Really? You thought threatening me with job termination would force me to inject mercury, formaldehyde, and other known toxins into my body? My faith and piety is a bit stronger than that. I'll go broke before I put that garbage into my body. Oh, and I STILL have my job. Thanks!

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Stand your ground, warrior! Really!

The EGE said...

You know what? You fail basic science. There isn't any mercury in vaccines. Hasn't been for at least 15 years now. Doesn't matter - it was in a form that wasn't harmful. The one study that said it was was FAKED. There isn't any formaldehyde in there either. Or any 'known toxins'.

Next time, before you endanger those around you by not taking the chance to cut your risk for a widespread disease in three, maybe you should learn the facts.

I am the EGE, and I own this comment.

Anonymous said...

Ege,

Your lack of research and immature comment shows that you don't know anything about current vaccine regulations, or vaccine protocol.

At least you "own" your ignorance :)

Jamie said...
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Jamie said...

Totally agree. But you could have sued his/her ass for wrongful termination and lived a life of luxury if he/she did fire you.

Oh, and EGE owning your idiocy is worse than just being an idiot!

Larian LeQuella said...
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Larian LeQuella said...

Grr, forgot HTML tags... Let's try agian:

Uh, WHAT? I suspect that you wouldn't recognize science if it bit you then?

http://factsnotfantasy.com/vaccines.html

Your fears are totally unfounded. Not only that, you are showing a hallmark of bad reasoning.

There is a lot more reading material out there, but I am suspecting that you probably wouldn't bother with it. Of course, don't take it from me, take it from Doctors and scientists.
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience/all/1

And yes, a Wired article with research and science, who would have thought.

The EGE said...

@Anonymous: I don't believe my comment was in any way immature. Abrasive, yes, but that's because I'm tired about reading about people DYING because of misinformation about vaccines.

Here is your vaccine protocol. The WHO, who I argue is the best authority on most any health issue, says to get a flu vaccine, including an H1N1 vaccine.

And yes, I know quite a bit about vaccine regulations. Like how health care workers like my father, and those that work daily with children like my mother and sister, and those who are young and in public schools like me - i.e, those most at risk - will have to fight to get the vaccine. I know that people like the food handlers at my school prolly will not spend the money and/or time to get vaccinated, and thus risk spreading H1N1.

I also know that were universal vaccination achieved, then about 25000 deaths a year in the uS alone from regular seasonal flu could be prevented, and more this year if H1N1 truly goes global. Which is greater: a bullshit religious edict, or 25000 people?

And unlike you, I'm willing to attach my identity to my views, rather than hide behind 'anonymous'. I own my comments, and I own the intelligence behind them. You, on the other hand, can't even produce anything to support your claims, much less the courage to own up to your idiocy.

However, I will concede one point. I was wrong - there actually is a tiny amount of formaldehyde in vaccines. Source. However, it's only a tiny amount - not enough to do harm, and in fact less concentrated than formaldehyde is in your body anyway due to natural processes. So there.

~~~~Summer Glau

Larian LeQuella said...

1. Some pro-disease anti-vaxers claim there is antifreeze in vaccines. This is false. Antifreeze is ethylene glycol. Vaccines use polyethylenes glycol. These are different substances, the latter of which is not toxic.

2. Vaccines contain formaldehyde. However, the chemical structure of the formaldehyde in vaccines is the same as that produced by our own bodies. It is used during the manufacturing process, but is diluted to remove it from the finished product, leaving only small or trace amounts. The total amount of formaldehyde in a finished product is far less than what is naturally found in the human body.

3. As an aside; the total amount of "Formaldehyde" in vaccines from the vaccine schedule for a 6 year old child is 1.2016mg, BUT 1 (one) banana contains 16.3mg!

Anonymous said...

I find it so hilarious that so many "informed" people are linking websites that aren't from the makers of these vaccines. The CDC itself has a list of vaccines and their ingredients. See for yourselves just how many have mercury in them: (by the way, for you uneducated types, "thimersol" is mercury)

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

Anonymous said...

everyone could argue both sides of the issue all day and we won't get anywhere. Let's all just respect each other's personal choices for themselves.

Anonymous said...

EGE, it only takes 2 tablespoons of formaldehyde to kill an adult. That's direct information from the CDC.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/MHMI/mmg111-handout.pdf

Marinka said...

The point isn't about whether the vaccine is safe. It's about whether an employer has a right to harass the bejesus out of you about it. And your god-given right to whine about it.

TechyDad said...

2 tablespoons of formaldehyde will kill you? Fair enough. However, as per Larian LeQuella's comment, there's only 1.2016mg in the vaccine schedule for a 6 year old.

How many tablespoons is that? Well, the density of formaldehyde is 6.7776368 pounds per US gallon. Doing some math, via Google, we get 0.00010005893 tablespoons of formaldehyde in the entire vaccine schedule for a 6 year old. It's about 1/200th of a pet of the lethal dose you were worried about.

As Larian LeQuella also pointed out, there's a whole lot more formaldehyde in a single banana. This works out to 0.00135732403 tablespoons, or 6/100ths of one percent.

If eating a banana has no bad effects on you due to formaldehyde, how are the vaccines (with much less formaldehyde) supposed to harm you?

3. As an aside; the total amount of "Formaldehyde" in vaccines from the vaccine schedule for a 6 year old child is 1.2016mg, BUT 1 (one) banana contains 16.3mg!

SSauer said...

Thanks for the information everyone! :o)

Marinka said...

I'm definitely going to lay off the bananas.